Did the Buddha, when he was a bodhisattva, practice with arupa jhanas and rejected them?
Well, I would say this is simply lacking direct experience. The Buddha explains these arupa jhanas so many times, it would be basically putting a lot of what he said in the garbage. He also explains his teaching in many different ways, and sometimes he’s not even talking about these jhanas. The problem nowadays, is, that there are many different interpretations of this teaching, and different practices. I’ve heard and seen and tried so many of them. I’m not sure which one this is from.
I would simply just stay with the suttas and what is being said by the Buddha himself. And the direct experience of you and other meditators. Technically, the arupa jhanas are part of the fourth jhana, so maybe that’s related?
It’s tricky because these things are quite obviously experience-able. That someone would say something like that, would just mean that whatever they’re doing, whatever their practice is, they’re not experiencing these states. Which would make me lean towards interpreting this as; there’s something not working with the way they’re practicing. Or there’s a little piece missing somewhere, or a few.
This simply is Dhamma in a very tangible way. Mainly, these [jhana]states have been interpreted in an absorption-concentration context for so long, that it’s hard for the people to understand what these states truly are. The jhanas are simply a road map. You practice for example the virtue. This is the ground for the wholesome states, this is the root of wholesome states. So, you purify the virtue first and the mind has a healthy stand.
There are three things, it’s very simple;
there’s the Wise Practice; you abandon, you let go, you Release, you Relax the tension state, and you cultivate, you bring up the wholesome states. Joy, metta, all these things.
Then, by practicing Wise Practice/Right Effort, Wise Awareness arises. Then, you’re aware of the Satipaṭṭhānas. Just being aware of things as they are, without changing them, without forcing, without controlling, and that’s very important, through Releasing, letting go.
And then, in that fold of the Path, Wise Samadhi, these are the jhanas.
Basically, when you do the Wise Practice, when you practice properly, the right kind of awareness will arise. And that is not forcing the mind to be aware of something. It is this liberated awareness, this fully open, blooming Sampajañña…
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